Friday, December 08, 2006

Move Over, Garth

You might soon have company on the Independent bench...

John is no shrinking violet when it comes to his opinions. And he's no slouch at defending his constituents, either:

" B.C. Conservative MP John Cummins ramped up his attack on his own government Thursday by making public a letter to Prime Minister Stephen Harper critical of the $121-million treaty to be announced today with the Tsawwassen band."

PMSH does NOT like to have his own caucus members diss him in public. I predict the fur will fly realsoonnow.

(H/T Canadian Garth...)


Blogger Tim said...

First off, I hope your are wrong about this..."I predict the fur will fly realsoonnow." After reading the whole article and basing my opionion on that as I have not delved into it more than that. I am not sure that John is "defending his consituents" per say by being against the signing of this treaty. It appears the bigger part of his problem with it, is the development of the Roberts Bank superport not with the treaty itself. His assumption of how the rest of the land will be used by the Tsawwassen is simply hyperbolie(sp?). If he has a problem with the developement go after the developers not the treaty. The fact that some of the leases held by farmers are on Tsawwassen lands and they will become "resident alliens" is also more of the same. It cleary states in the article..."These people have always been in a circumstance where they hold their property rights from the first nation, so that isn't changing." The fishing rights on the Fraser is also brought up in the article and from my understanding of most treaty's, hunting and fishing rights has always been a part of them all. I am suspect of what John's real motives are.

Saturday, December 09, 2006 3:51:00 PM  
Blogger Chimera said...

"I am suspect of what John's real motives are." and a lot of other people!

John Cummins is one of those "never saw a rabble he couldn't wait to rouse" kinda guys. A born activist. Sometimes on the "right" and sometimes on the "left" and sometimes off on his own tangent. And whether or not I agree with his stance on any given topic (fishing rights is one of his pet projects), he's always good for an emotion-thumping sound bite!

But the whole reason I posted this (it's a very complicated issue) is not to agree or disagree with him. It's the fact that yet another of PMSH's caucus has "gone off the reservation" to steal a phrase.

Harper HATES it when his caucus make him look bad in public...

Saturday, December 09, 2006 4:22:00 PM  
Anonymous therealdino2112 said...

Harper HATES it when his caucus make him look bad in public...

I wouldn't be surprised to see a new PC party come out of this. Cruising around the web there sure are alot of people saying the same thing......all we want is a good "close-to-center" government who doesn't rob us blind or take our healthcare away......oh yah, and fix the environment....

Saturday, December 09, 2006 6:14:00 PM  
Blogger Tim said...

"all we want is a good "close-to-center" government who doesn't rob us blind or take our healthcare away......oh yah, and fix the environment...."

Harper has moved closer to center than anyone would have ever guessed and will continue to do so. Healthcare will never go anywhere in this country. It might change a bit to allow "for profit" if one so choses to use it, but the healthcare we have now will always be thing is for sure...Kyoto won't even fix co2 emissions never mind do anything for the enviroment.

Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:47:00 PM  
Blogger Candace said...

Chimera, I know you don't believe this, but Turner was punted because Turner couldn't keep his mouth shut - about anything. ANYTHING. Caucus being the biggest issue.

He & the indie from PQ will be holding hands and veritable "voices in the wilderness" until the next election, unless someone on the Liberal side gets bugged at Dion (probably more likely IMHO).

Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:20:00 PM  
Blogger Chimera said...

Candace, you're correct -- I don't believe it. Just because the PMO mouthpiece, whose wife happens to have a cabinet post, says that Turner blogged about caucus issues that were supposed to be secret does not make it so. Garth challenged the accusation, inviting someone to give examples of his indiscretion, but so far, not one iota of proof has arisen.

The real reason Garth was turfed is because he "embarassed" Harper by talking out of turn in disagreement with the CPC party policies, both stated and unstated.

Cummins is gonna find himself on the same hot seat. If not now, then soon. At the very least, I think Harper will refuse to sign his nomination papers come next election. Which may be soon.

Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger Candace said...

Garth scrubbed his blog, Chimera. I (and others) remember reading a few posts that had me wondering if I should be reading that info on a blog, but *poof* as soon as the allegations were made, they were gone. Somebody, somewhere, found a cache but I can't remember WHO (I read too many blogs!).

Time will tell which of us is correct wrt Cummins, but Chong didn't get punted and he disagreed w/PMSH in MUCH more embarassing and public manner. So... $10?

Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:37:00 PM  
Blogger Chimera said...

I read in some BT blogs that Garth had "scrubbed" the entries that had gotten him into trouble. Being the curious sort, I tried to find them. I even got some of my more computer-savvy friends to help me look. All we found were more rumors and allegations. No evidence.

I'm not saying it never existed, though. If it did exist, he did a damn fine job of erasing and concealing, and my geeky friends want to know his secrets!

If you do ever find the cache of missing posts, shoot me the link, okay? I've been known to admit when I was wrong.

$10? On Cummins' being punted? If this includes Harper's refusal to sign his nomination papers next election, you're on. Cummins may be "safe" for now on the grounds that Harper really can't afford to lose anyone else from caucus at the moment. Too many more gone, and the government will change automatically, without an election...

Monday, December 18, 2006 10:15:00 AM  

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